{"id":337828,"date":"2022-10-04T05:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-10-04T12:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/reasons.org\/?p=337828"},"modified":"2022-10-04T05:00:00","modified_gmt":"2022-10-04T12:00:00","slug":"responding-to-more-objections-to-original-sin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/reasons.org\/adam-eve\/sin\/responding-to-more-objections-to-original-sin","title":{"rendered":"Responding to More Objections to Original Sin"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br>I&#8217;ve never met a perfect human being. Even extraordinary Christian people I&#8217;ve known who are uncommonly humble, gracious, and loving admit that they have moral and spiritual flaws like envy, selfishness, and pride.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It seems all human beings have a congenital moral condition that stands beyond complete cure in this life. Personally, I sincerely desire to fulfill what Jesus called the two great commandments: To love God with all my heart, mind, soul, and strength and my neighbor as myself (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Mark%2012%3A29-31&amp;version=NIV\">Mark 12:29\u201331<\/a>). But while I&#8217;ve seen what I think is genuine spiritual growth in my life in terms of love and devotion to God and striving to be altruistic toward others, my attempts at doing so over my entire adult Christian life have been, at best, limited and painfully inconsistent. So the truth is I haven\u2019t fulfilled God\u2019s commandments and thus need a Savior from my sin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So what explains this universal flaw within human beings?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Bible\u2019s depiction of the defective human condition&nbsp;explains the&nbsp;moral failure by revealing that all human beings are captive to the debilitating force of original sin.&nbsp;Theologian John Jefferson Davis in <em>Handbook of Basic Bible Texts<\/em>&nbsp;defines \u201coriginal sin\u201d&nbsp;as \u201cthe sinfulness, guilt, and susceptibility to death inherited by all human beings [Christ excepted] from Adam.\u201d<sup>1<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&#8217;ve explained the doctrine here:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/reflectionsbyken.wordpress.com\/2020\/12\/22\/does-original-sin-explain-the-human-condition\/\">Does Original Sin Explain the Human&nbsp;Condition?<\/a>&nbsp;and defended it here:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/reflectionsbyken.wordpress.com\/2021\/04\/27\/responding-to-objections-to-original-sin\/\">Responding to Objections to Original Sin<\/a>.&nbsp;Yet some people continue to question it for various reasons. Let\u2019s look at a reader&#8217;s recent thoughtful objections that I received recently on social media (paraphrased) and&nbsp;my response to them.<br><br><strong>Objection from an Evangelical Christian<\/strong><br>Please allow me to play devil\u2019s advocate here and say that in regard to the doctrine of original sin, it is, in effect, a moot point:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Consider two respectful challenges:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">First, children become morally culpable through committing their own sin as soon as they are able to do so! Although often adduced as an argument for the&nbsp;logical plausibility of original sin, this fact also seems to be an argument <em>against<\/em> the practical value of such a doctrine, because at the instant of their first \u201catomic\u201d acts of sin, children become sinners by volition, regardless of whether they were sinners by nature before then. Do toddlers sin because they are sinners, or do they become sinners because they sin? If Adam himself proved anything, it&#8217;s that one does not have to be a sinner by nature in order to disobey the first time one faces a real test.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Second, even among those (Western) Christian teachers who claim to believe in original sin, most will posit the idea of an age of accountability. Realizing that the thought of any baby ending up in hell offends the sensibilities of most reasonable people, they thus make a de facto nullification of original sin by suggesting an exception to the usual necessary means of salvation (direct, consciously exercised faith in Christ) for those who die as infants or small children. I don&#8217;t know. But shall not the Judge of all the Earth do right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>My Response<\/strong><br>Greetings in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Thank you for your respectful and thoughtful comments. Let me offer a few points in response:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">First, the devil doesn\u2019t need an advocate.&nbsp;\uf04a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Second, as my article <a href=\"https:\/\/reflectionsbyken.wordpress.com\/2021\/04\/27\/responding-to-objections-to-original-sin\/\">Responding to Objections to Original Sin<\/a> indicates, not all of theologically conservative Christendom affirms original sin. Eastern Orthodoxy affirms a universal proclivity to sin but rejects a universal guilt in Adam.<sup>2<\/sup>&nbsp;Also, some of the modern-day representatives of the radical reformation (Anabaptists) reject the teaching that all people are guilty in Adam.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Third, the most important question for evangelical Protestants is does the Bible teach original sin? See my article where I reference Scripture that children are conceived in sin and people are sinners by nature, not just by choice<sup>&nbsp;<\/sup>(<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Psalm+51%3A5%3B+58%3A3%3B+Proverbs+20%3A9%3B+romans+5%3A10-12&amp;version=NIV\">Psalm 51:5; 58:3; Proverbs 20:9<\/a>;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Psalm+51%3A5%3B+58%3A3%3B+Proverbs+20%3A9%3B+romans+5%3A10-12&amp;version=NIV\">&nbsp;Romans 5:10\u201312<\/a>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fourth, the gospel message itself seems to trade on the idea of original sin. That is, the apostle Paul seems to say that people inherit Adam\u2019s sin similarly to how believers inherit Christ\u2019s righteousness (Romans 5). So human beings can be judged fairly for Adam\u2019s sin similarly to how Christ is judged for the collective sin of humanity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fifth, your description of sin seems too restrained (Augustinians may call it Pelagian-like) compared to Scripture. A mere volitional choice or proclivity to sin doesn\u2019t seem to square with Scripture\u2019s definition of sin as \u201cdisobedience,\u201d \u201cevil,\u201d \u201cinequity,\u201d \u201clawlessness,\u201d \u201ctransgression,\u201d \u201ctrespass,\u201d \u201cungodliness,\u201d \u201cunholiness,\u201d \u201cunrighteousness,\u201d and \u201cwickedness.\u201d<sup>3<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sixth, Adam did sin without a sinful nature but if all children have free choice, then why is sin universal among humanity? Why haven\u2019t some freely chosen not to sin? It seems most of Western Christendom thinks original sin is a better explanation for the human condition (the universality of sin).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Seventh, affirming an age of accountability doesn&#8217;t biblically invalidate original sin. Saying something is \u201cmoot\u201d doesn\u2019t exegetically explain the clear teaching of Scripture. An age of accountability can simply mean that a person has reached an age where they are more cognizant of their sin, but that doesn\u2019t remove one\u2019s possible corporate sin as part of the human species.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Eighth, Western Christendom (both Catholic and Protestant) by and large <em>does<\/em> affirm original sin and this is especially true of magisterial Protestants. The practice of infant baptism is usually connected to the perceived state of sin in the child.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As I said in <a href=\"https:\/\/reflectionsbyken.wordpress.com\/2021\/04\/27\/responding-to-objections-to-original-sin\/\">Responding to Objections to Original Sin<\/a>: \u201cI think original sin is a clear biblical doctrine and a coherent idea that carries great explanatory power and scope when it comes to the human condition.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Peace be with you, brother.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Takeaway<\/strong><br>The doctrine of original sin is, in some respects, a perplexing teaching. But it has a biblical basis and it is confirmed universally among human beings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Reflections: Your Turn<\/strong><br>Do you see original sin manifested in your life? Visit <em><a href=\"https:\/\/reflectionsbyken.wordpress.com\">Reflections<\/a><\/em> to comment.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Resources<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>For more about original sin and God\u2019s cure in the&nbsp;gospel of Jesus Christ, see my book,&nbsp;<em><a href=\"https:\/\/shop.reasons.org\/purchase\/7-truths-that-changed-the-world\">7 Truths That Changed the World<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/support.reasons.org\/purchase\/7-truths-that-changed-the-world\">: Discovering Christianity&#8217;s Most Dangerous Ideas<\/a>&nbsp;<\/em>(Grand Rapids, MI: Baker, 2012), chapters 9 and 10.<\/li><li>See my article \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/reflectionsbyken.wordpress.com\/2019\/09\/03\/blaise-pascal-on-the-human-condition-2\/\">Blaise Pascal on the Human Condition<\/a>.\u201d<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Endnotes<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\" type=\"1\"><li>John Jefferson Davis,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Handbook-Basic-Bible-Texts-Jefferson\/dp\/0310437113\/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=Handbook+of+Basic+Bible+Texts%3A+Every+Key+Passage+for+the+Study+of+Doctrine+and&amp;qid=1602961230&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1\"><em>Handbook of Basic Bible Text: Every Key Passage for the Study of Doctrine and Theology<\/em><\/a> (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1984), 56.<\/li><li>Fr. 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Romanides, \u201cOriginal Sin According to St. Paul,\u201d&nbsp;Orthodox Christian Information Center, accessed September 19, 2022,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/orthodoxinfo.com\/inquirers\/frjr_sin.aspx\">http:\/\/orthodoxinfo.com\/inquirers\/frjr_sin.aspx<\/a>.<\/li><li>Kenneth Richard Samples,&nbsp;<em><a href=\"https:\/\/shop.reasons.org\/purchase\/7-truths-that-changed-the-world\">7 Truths That Changed the World<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/support.reasons.org\/purchase\/7-truths-that-changed-the-world\">:&nbsp;Discovering Christianity&#8217;s Most Dangerous Ideas<\/a> <\/em>(Grand Rapids, MI: Baker, 2012), chapters 9 and 10.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"\/\/125AB328-090E-4BB4-9C6F-EB79AC8D5B7F#_ednref3\"><\/a>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a 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