{"id":350855,"date":"2022-10-04T05:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-10-04T12:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/reasons.org\/explore\/blogs\/blog_channel\/eine-replik-auf-weitere-einwaende-gegen-die-lehre-der-erbsuende"},"modified":"2022-10-04T05:00:00","modified_gmt":"2022-10-04T12:00:00","slug":"eine-replik-auf-weitere-einwaende-gegen-die-lehre-der-erbsuende","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/reasons.org\/adam-eve\/sin\/eine-replik-auf-weitere-einwaende-gegen-die-lehre-der-erbsuende","title":{"rendered":"Eine Replik auf weitere Einw\u00e4nde gegen die Lehre der Erbs\u00fcnde"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br\/>Ich bin noch nie einem perfekten Menschen begegnet. Auch au\u00dfergew\u00f6hnliche Christen, die ich gekannt habe, die au\u00dferordentlich dem\u00fctig, gn\u00e4dig, und liebevoll sind, gestehen, dass sie an Moralfehler und geistliche Schwachstellen wie Neid, Eigennutz, und Stolz leiden. <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Es scheint, dass alle Menschen eine angeborene Moralschw\u00e4che haben, die in diesem Leben nicht abgeholfen werden kann. Ich will pers\u00f6nlich die zwei Gebote erf\u00fcllen, die Jesus die gr\u00f6\u00dften nannte: Gott mit meinem ganzen Herzen, Geist, ganzer Seele und ganzer St\u00e4rke zu lieben, und meinen N\u00e4chsten zu lieben, wie ich mich selbst liebe <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Mark%2012%3A29-31&amp;version=NIV\">(Markus 12,29\u201331).<\/a> Obwohl ich meine, echtes geistliches Wachstum in meinem Leben gesehen zu haben, besonders hinsichtlich der Liebe und Hingabe an Gott und meines Strebens, anderen altruistisch gesinnt zu sein.Wenn ich aber das Gesamtbild meines Lebens als Christ betrachte, muss ich zugeben, dass meine Erfolge begrenzt und schmerzhaft inkonsistent gewesen sind. Die Wahrheit ist, dass ich Gottes Gebote nicht erf\u00fcllt habe. Daher brauche ich einen Retter, der mich aus meiner S\u00fcnde herausrettet.<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Was erkl\u00e4rt dieses universelle Manko in Menschen?<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Die Bibel stellt die defizit\u00e4re Moralbeschaffenheit der Menschen so dar: alle Menschen sind der l\u00e4hmenden Macht der Erbs\u00fcnde zum Opfer gefallen. In seinem <em>Handbook of Basic Bible Texts<\/em> definiert der Theologe John Jefferson Davis die \u201cErbs\u00fcnde\u201d als \u201cdie S\u00fcndhaftigkeit, Schuld, und Todesanf\u00e4lligkeit, die alle Menschen [au\u00dfer Christus] [Christ excepted]von Adam geerbt haben.\u201d<sup>1<\/sup><\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Diese Doktrin habe ich hier erkl\u00e4rt: <a href=\"https:\/\/reflectionsbyken.wordpress.com\/2020\/12\/22\/does-original-sin-explain-the-human-condition\/\">Does Original Sin Explain the Human Condition?<\/a> Und hier verteidigt: <a href=\"https:\/\/reflectionsbyken.wordpress.com\/2021\/04\/27\/responding-to-objections-to-original-sin\/\">Responding to Objections to Original Sin<\/a>. Aber manche stellen sie immer noch in Frage aus unterschiedlichen Gr\u00fcnden. Setzen wir uns auseinander mit gut durchgedachten Einw\u00e4nden, die ich neulich durch Sozialmedien empfangen habe (leicht umschrieben) und meine Replik drauf.<br\/><br\/><strong>Einwand von einem Evangelikalen<\/strong><br\/>Gestatten Sie es mir, advocatus diaboli hier indem ich sage, hinsichtlich der Doktrin der Erbs\u00fcnde, dass sie, im Endeffekt, eine rein-akademische Frage ist:<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Betrachten Sie zwei Herausforderungen:<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Erstens: Kinder werden schuldhaft in dem sie ihre eigenen S\u00fcnden begehen, sobald sie k\u00f6nnen! Obwohl diese Tatsache oft als Argument f\u00fcr die logische Plausibilit\u00e4t der Erbs\u00fcnde aufgef\u00fchrt wird, scheint diese Tatsache auch ein Argument <em>gegen<\/em> den praktischen Wert einer solchen Doktrin zu sein. Warum? Weil, im Moment ihrer ersten \u201catomischen\u201d S\u00fcnde, Kinder durch ihren Willen S\u00fcnder werden, egal ob sie per natura schon vor diesem Moment S\u00fcnder waren. S\u00fcndigen Kleinkinder weil sie schon S\u00fcnder sind, oder werden sie S\u00fcnder, in dem sie s\u00fcndigen? Wenn die Existenz von Adam \u00fcberhaupt etwas beweist, ist es, dass man nicht per natura S\u00fcnder sein muss, um s\u00fcndigen zu k\u00f6nnen in der ersten, wahren Pr\u00fcfung.<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Zweitens: auch die (westlichen) christlichen Lehrern, die behaupten, an die Erbs\u00fcnde zu glauben, setzen voraus, dass es ein Rechenschaftsalter gibt. Es ist ihnen klar, dass vern\u00fcnftige Personen den Gedanken, dass Kleine Babys in die H\u00f6lle kommen, abartig finden. Sie sprechen die Doktrin der Erbs\u00fcnde de facto ung\u00fcltig, in dem sie vorschlagen, dass der normale Mechanismus des Seelenheils (direkter Glaube an Jesus, der bewusst ausge\u00fcbt wird) mindestens eine Ausnahme f\u00fcr die gestorbenen Babys oder Kleinkinder zul\u00e4sst. Ich wei\u00df nicht, aber soll nicht der Richter der ganzen Erde richtig handeln?<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Meine Replik<\/strong><br\/>Ich gr\u00fc\u00dfe Sie im Namen des Vaters, des Sohnes und des Heiligen Geistes. Danke f\u00fcr Ihre respektvolle und gut durchgedachte Kommentare. Gestatten Sie es mir, einige Punkte als Replik aufzuf\u00fchren:<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Erstens: Der Teufel braucht keinen Anwalt. Er ist einer.. \uf04a<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Zweitens: In meinem Artikel <a href=\"https:\/\/reflectionsbyken.wordpress.com\/2021\/04\/27\/responding-to-objections-to-original-sin\/\">Responding to Objections to Original Sin<\/a> habe ich darauf hingewiesen, dass nicht alle theologisch-konservativen Christen die Doktrin der Erbs\u00fcnde bejahen. Ost-orthodoxe Christen bejahen die Lehre, dass wir alle eine universelle Neigung zur S\u00fcnde haben, aber lehnen eine universelle Schuld in oder durch Adam ab.<sup>2<\/sup> Einige moderne Vertreter der radikalen Reformation (Wiedert\u00e4ufer) lehnen die Lehre ab, dass alle in Adam schuldig sind.<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Drittens: Die wichtigste Frage f\u00fcr Evangelikale ist, lehrt die Bibel die Erbs\u00fcnde? Zu diesem Punkt lesen Sie meinen Artikel, wo ich auf die Bibelstellen hinweise, dass Kinder in S\u00fcnde gezeugt werden und von der Natur aus S\u00fcnder sind, und das nicht nur aus freiem Willen werden<sup> <\/sup>(<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Psalm+51%3A5%3B+58%3A3%3B+Proverbs+20%3A9%3B+romans+5%3A10-12&amp;version=NIV\">Psalm 51,5; 58,3; Spr\u00fcche 20,9<\/a>;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Psalm+51%3A5%3B+58%3A3%3B+Proverbs+20%3A9%3B+romans+5%3A10-12&amp;version=NIV\"> R\u00f6mer 5,10\u201312<\/a>).<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Viertens: Selbst die gute Nachricht scheint, auf die Idee der Erbs\u00fcnde gegr\u00fcndet zu sein. Das hei\u00dft, der Apostel Paulus scheint zu sagen, dass Menschen die S\u00fcnde Adams erben, parallel zu wie Gl\u00e4ubige die Gerechtigkeit Christi erben (R\u00f6mer 5). Menschen k\u00f6nnen auf fairer Weise f\u00fcr die S\u00fcnde Adams so wie Christus f\u00fcr die kollektive S\u00fcnde der Menschheit gerichtet wurde.<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">F\u00fcnftens: Ihre Beschreibung der S\u00fcnde scheint, wenn sie mit den Schriften verglichen wird, viel zu gez\u00fcgelt (Anh\u00e4nger des Augustinus w\u00fcrde sie sogar Pelagianisch nennen). Eine nur willensm\u00e4\u00dfige Entscheidung oder Neigung zur S\u00fcnde scheint mit der Sicht der Schrift zu \u00fcbereinstimmen. Die Schrift definiert S\u00fcnde als \u201cUngehorsam,\u201d \u201cB\u00f6se,\u201d \u201cUnbilligkeit,\u201d \u201cGesetzlosigkeit,\u201d \u201c\u00dcbertretung,\u201d \u201cVergehen,\u201d \u201cGottlosigkeit,\u201d \u201cUnheiligkeit,\u201d \u201cUngerechtigkeit,\u201d und \u201cSchlechtigkeit.\u201d<sup>3<\/sup><\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sechstens: Adam hat ges\u00fcndigt, ohne eine mit S\u00fcnde behaftet Natur zu haben. Aber, wenn alle Kinder eine freie Wahl haben, warum ist S\u00fcnde universell unter Menschen? Warum haben keine frei gew\u00e4hlt, nie zu s\u00fcndigen? Es scheint, dass die Mehrheit des westlichen Christentums denkt, dass die Erbs\u00fcnde das Wesen des Menschen (dass S\u00fcnde unter uns universell ist) besser erkl\u00e4rt.<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Siebtens: Dass man ein Rechenschaftsalter bejaht, macht die Idee der Erbs\u00fcnde nicht biblisch ung\u00fcltig. Das man etwas zu einer \u201crein-akademischen\u201d Frage erkl\u00e4rt, erkl\u00e4rt die klare Lehre der Schrift nicht weg. Ein Rechenschaftsalter kann nur bedeuten, dass eine Person ein Alter erreicht hat, wo sie ihre S\u00fcnde bewusster wahrnehmen. Das aber nimmt eine m\u00f6gliche angeborene S\u00fcnde des Einzelnen als Mensch nicht hinweg.<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Achtens: Christentum im Westen (katholisch und evangelisch in gleicher Ma\u00dfe) <em>bejaht<\/em> Erbs\u00fcnde weitgehend, besonders die Landeskirchen hierzulande. Kindertaufe verbindet man mit der Annahme, dass das Kind schon mit S\u00fcnde belastet auf die Welt kommt.<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wie ich in <a href=\"https:\/\/reflectionsbyken.wordpress.com\/2021\/04\/27\/responding-to-objections-to-original-sin\/\">Responding to Objections to Original Sin<\/a> geschrieben habe: \u201cIch halte die Erbs\u00fcnde f\u00fcr eine klare Lehre der Bibel und eine koh\u00e4rente Idee, die gro\u00dfe Erkl\u00e4rungskraft und Reichweite mit sich bringt, wenn man das Wesen des Menschen erkl\u00e4ren m\u00f6chte.\u201c<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Friede mit Ihnen, Bruder.<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Takeaway<\/strong><br\/>Die Doktrin der Erbs\u00fcnde kann in manchen Hinsichten eine verwirrende Lehre sein. Aber die biblische Grundlage daf\u00fcr ist fest und sie wird universell unter Menschen best\u00e4tigt.<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Reflections: Sie sind dran<\/strong><br\/>Sehen Sie wie sich die Erbs\u00fcnde in Ihrem Leben manifestiert? Kommentare k\u00f6nnen sie unter <em><a href=\"https:\/\/reflectionsbyken.wordpress.com\">Reflections<\/a><\/em> lassen. <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\n          <strong>Weiterf\u00fchrende Lekt\u00fcre<\/strong>\n        <\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>\u2022 Wenn Sie mehr \u00fcber Erbs\u00fcnde und Gottes Heilmittel dagegen im Evangelium Jesu Christi erfahren wollen, lesen Sie Kapitel 9 und 10 in meinem Buch <em><a href=\"https:\/\/shop.reasons.org\/purchase\/7-truths-that-changed-the-world\">7 Truths That Changed the World<\/a>: <a href=\"https:\/\/support.reasons.org\/purchase\/7-truths-that-changed-the-world\">Discovering Christianity\u2019s Most Dangerous Ideas<\/a><\/em> (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker, 2012).<\/li><li>\u2022 Ich empfehle Ihnen auch meinen Artikel: \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/reflectionsbyken.wordpress.com\/2019\/09\/03\/blaise-pascal-on-the-human-condition-2\/\">Blaise Pascal on the Human Condition<\/a>.\u201d<\/li><\/ul>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\n          <strong>Endnoten<\/strong>\n        <\/p>\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\" type=\"1\"><li>John Jefferson Davis, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Handbook-Basic-Bible-Texts-Jefferson\/dp\/0310437113\/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=Handbook+of+Basic+Bible+Texts%3A+Every+Key+Passage+for+the+Study+of+Doctrine+and&amp;qid=1602961230&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1\"><em>Handbook of Basic Bible Text: Every Key Passage for the Study of Doctrine and Theology<\/em><\/a> (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1984), 56.<\/li><li>Fr. John S. Romanides, \u201cOriginal Sin According to St. Paul,\u201d Orthodox Christian Information Center, nachgeschlagen am 9.September.2022, <a href=\"http:\/\/orthodoxinfo.com\/inquirers\/frjr_sin.aspx\">http:\/\/orthodoxinfo.com\/inquirers\/frjr_sin.aspx<\/a>.<\/li><li>Kenneth Richard Samples, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/shop.reasons.org\/purchase\/7-truths-that-changed-the-world\">7 Truths That Changed the World<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/support.reasons.org\/purchase\/7-truths-that-changed-the-world\">: Discovering Christianity&#8217;s Most Dangerous Ideas<\/a><\/em>(Grand Rapids, MI: Baker, 2012), chapters 9 and 10.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"\/\/125AB328-090E-4BB4-9C6F-EB79AC8D5B7F#_ednref3\"><\/a> <\/p>\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"\/\/7CA8EA67-57F4-4268-B669-F5968CD286F2#_ednref1\"><\/a> <\/p>\n\n<p 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